hii'm quite new here, so i don't know how my opinion will be weighted; anyways, i'm having some problems with people who post their links in my threads.i've reported them, but i find it weird that that behaviour has been tolerated so far.hijacking is usually punished really hard on almost every board, but it seems like there is some "special rule" that allow senior users to abuse the newer ones (somebody registered in 2008 and still doing this moronic things? not banned yet? WTF???)the same goes for the "no advertising" rule: i see people with URLs in nickname, in files name, in signature, etc....do they have "special rights"?and the people who continuously bump their threads (usually crap, but upped on paying hosts)?i'm not happy and i won't live with it, so a reply from the staff would be appreciatedI only wanna making mirror links, so people have more chances to download, that's allit's not just about you; this happened to me with another user(btw sorry for my rude language on that thread...i don't get angry easily, it only happens to me when there's something i don't understand)EDIT: just to explain why i'm causing all this drama;i'm paying a seedbox - a good seedbox, not the $3/month - to download torrents as soon as they're released; i'm paying a vps where i copy the files from the seedbox**** the above is not of your concern, it's a choice of mine, and i'd never brought it up if it wasn't for explaining the actual situation ****i spend my time splitting the files, checking them, uploading them to host, sometimes mirroring them, searching for covers and/or screenshots and info, posting them here in a (IMHO) pleasant way; i try to use mostly MU because it seems to be preferred by the vast majority here....(this is what I do, and what a good uploader should do)... then somebody pick the links, remote upload them, and post those links in my thread, earning points off my work (yeah, it's p2p, but still...), exposing my original uploads to the risk of deletion (if not downloaded)IMHO in a forum like this, admins and mods should be GODS, and good uploaders should be something like SAINTS (just for comparison), because they're work is what keep attracting new usersand i'm not talking about who copypaste the ralume, jav4u etc stuff; that's easy to do, but it will lead to nowhere, because mirroring files is a joke, even a 10 y/o kid could do it; what counts is new content, which isn't something all the so-called uploaders can providethis is the story so far... /editQuote:I only wanna making mirror links, so people have more chances to download, that's allif so, why don't you open your own thread? it's too easy to enter in a popular thread and simply drop your links, without any effort on your partAND what about the hosters rewards? do you know that files are kept alive by the people downloading them? if my files get deleted because people download yours, will you give me the points YOU earned doing nothing more than remote upload a couple of files in 5 minutes?users will always complain about this and that host, but it should be the original uploader's concern wether to mirror them or not. mind you, even with a million of mirrors, you could never make everybody happy: it's the human nature :-Dpartially edited (i've not been clear enough): what i really fail to understand is; if there is a thread created by Desu, named "ABC-123 on MU", that thread MUST be about the ABC-123 provided by Desu and upped on MU.if somebody asks for a RS mirror, Desu will do it or not, and in case will modify the title; but that would be his own choice.if DokuganRyu feels like he needs some point in his RS account it may mirror the files, but he will have to open a new thread, because it's a different user, using different host, and the files are not the same anymore (he could have renamed or rared them, or they could have been corrupted in the transfer, for example), so those links don't pertain to that thread.there's nothing stopping him from opening his own thread and post those links in there; in fact it would be a wise choice, because if he's a popular uploader people will follow him, and if he's bad he will not abuse the original uploader's popularity (if he has any).also, what if -following the above example- Desu wouldn't have uploaded ABCD-123? obviously, there would have been nothing to mirror, so no work for the above user DokuganRyu... so why should he be credited in the original thread, if without that thread he shouldn't had nothing to be credited about? another reason for him to open his own. /partial editanyway, i've already been warned, so it may be that i'm on the wrong side... if some mods or admin could speak about this, this matter would be settled for meno hard feelings guys, but i'm uploading and posting on various boards since... almost ten years? (whoa! time flies doesn't it?) and this is the first time i see this behaviour being accepted in a board so big and popularas i wrote to a mod, i'm not going to live with it, so just tell me IF and HOW you'll apply the no-hijacking rule, then i'll have to choose if stay here or leave, and the peace will come back to this nice place.Quote:Originally Posted by Desuhii'm quite new hereSay what now? Yes, I see the June 2009 registration date clear as crystal: but, I just don't believe it! Aren't you Pedobear from HongFire? Maybe, maybe not. I've seen your avatar before, though, and I could have sworn I saw it back when I first signed up here myself. Anyway ...Quote:hijacking is usually punished really hard on almost every boardIs it hijacking if somebody posts their torrent and DDL links in your thread? I think this is a question where either answer is accurate. "Yes," because you made the thread and you may privately wish for people to use your torrents that you worked hard to create. "No," because if everybody made a different thread every time he wanted to upload something, the board would get flooded with reposts. Actually, it already has in JAV: I saw not one, not two, but five different threads with five different titles made by five different members for the exact same video. Talk about frustrating!Quote:but it seems like there is some "special rule" that allow senior users to abuse the newer onesNo, no, no, no. Don't worry. ^_^ No such thing. Don't mind registration dates. Also disregard reputation, because many new members (like yourself!) can skyrocket to the top of the ratings with just a few very popular porn uploads. What I would pay attention to is the post count plus the reputation plus the registration date. If the post count is less than 50, it doesn't matter if this guy signed up 1999 -- he's not a major contributor, uploads or otherwise. Likewise, if his post count is 2000 but his reputation isn't all that high, it just means he's a chatty person but not important in the community. *hint hint*Quote:the same goes for the "no advertising" rule: i see people with URLs in nickname, in files name, in signature, etc....do they have "special rights"?This is almost impossible to enforce because many of the top uploaders insist on advertising their websites, forums, etc. and to tell them not to would be to lose their patronage. But again, I don't think it has anything to do with seniority, really.Quote:Originally Posted by SakunyuushaSay what now? Yes, I see the June 2009 registration date clear as crystal: but, I just don't believe it! Aren't you Pedobear from HongFire? Maybe, maybe not. I've seen your avatar before, though, and I could have sworn I saw it back when I first signed up here myself. Anyway ...that's not me, sorry; a pedobear nickname or avatar in a porn forum could be a bit...misleading?Quote:Is it hijacking if somebody posts their torrent and DDL links in your thread? I think this is a question where either answer is accurate. "Yes," because you made the thread and you may privately wish for people to use your torrents that you worked hard to create. "No," because if everybody made a different thread every time he wanted to upload something, the board would get flooded with reposts. Actually, it already has in JAV: I saw not one, not two, but five different threads with five different titles made by five different members for the exact same video. Talk about frustrating!yup! that's exactly what i meant by "hijacking".i get both your points in saying yes or no, but (and i've already bored to death a mod explaining this :P) if we're talking about torrents there's no problem, because the .torrent files even renamed, reupped, modified, etc will always point to the same files;in DDL if somebody copy my files and post them in his own thread it's ok... we all have to take our stuff from somewhere and that's the way i started too, but if the guy post his links directly in my thread, just under those of mine, well that's not fair and looks like a lack of respect (i take it as an attack); he's also damaging me, because i need my files to be downloaded to know if they're appreciated or not and to generate points for premium renewal.this is how i see it:my upload 1 ----> forum thread ----> downloads ----> points, premium ----> more uploadswhen people steal my links it goes this way:my upload 1 ----> forum thread ----> some DLs ----> hijacking ----> less DLs than what i expected ----> less points, no premium ----> losing interest in uploadingflooding the board does have nothing to do with this, since the people who hijack usually don't care about opening new threads, they only want to gain points off other post's popularity... in other words, if there would be a law enforcing them in this, they would probably stop posting at all...and please don't give me that "i just want to give others more download choices", like supermax did because that's utterly BS! if somebody really care about others, he should spend his time opening new threads and upping things on his own.what he (and others) is doing is called point-whoring (another term i recently discovered), and has NOTHING to do with file sharingQuote:No, no, no, no. Don't worry. ^_^ No such thing. Don't mind registration dates. Also disregard reputation, because many new members (like yourself!) can skyrocket to the top of the ratings with just a few very popular porn uploads. What I would pay attention to is the post count plus the reputation plus the registration date. If the post count is less than 50, it doesn't matter if this guy signed up 1999 -- he's not a major contributor, uploads or otherwise. Likewise, if his post count is 2000 but his reputation isn't all that high, it just means he's a chatty person but not important in the community. *hint hint*too bad i'm not a chatter (my poor english doesn't allow me), because i find your posts really funny -in a good way- and somewhat interesting (cheek bandages and tentacles, and i've just started reading your threads :D); so i must be content with being a simple uploaderanyway, thanks for clarifying your thoughts on the post/regdate/rep systemQuote:This is almost impossible to enforce because many of the top uploaders insist on advertising their websites, forums, etc. and to tell them not to would be to lose their patronage. But again, I don't think it has anything to do with seniority, really.aha! so there's an unwritten rule which gives some privileges to major uploaders, huh?nothing against it, but really... dunno, i'm quite disappointededit: there is still this guy who keeps thanking himself just to bump his threads, and it's newer than me, so at least it's really not a matter of seniorityYou can load your links into a container, such as a .DLC (for compatability with clients like jDownloader). It's not entirely foolproof and other people can still copy off of your work, but as more people begin to use filehost managers like jDownloader, they will begin to prefer using .DLC over copying individual links one-by-one.If you are serious about your uploading and members recognize the quality of your work, you may also consider posting your shares all in one thread. That way people will gradually know to check only your thread for major releases and to skip other reposts (except if they need a different mirror, etc). Plus the mods here may be more forthcoming in letting you control your thread, and you may even get it stickied if its a particularly good resource.Quote:Originally Posted by Desuaha! so there's an unwritten rule which gives some privileges to major uploaders, huh?I already told you: there is none / no privilege.I wouldn't say there is an unwritten rule. I would say that the moderators do not feel it is prudent to chastise major contributors for breaking the rules versus chastising minor or non-contributors. Consider the potential gains and losses. If the major contributor respects the mod, that's one less rulebreaker. If the minor contributor respects the mod, ditto. Same reward. Now, if the minor contributor disrespects the mod and leaves the site forever, the loss to the community is minimal. But if the major contributor disrespects the mod and leaves, the blow can potentially affect thousands of visitors and hundreds of registered members.Before you get disappointed again and think that Akiba-Online puts prudency before ethics, I'd like to point out that the site is understaffed relative to the rule violations; or rather, the rule violations are nigh-on infinite, and it's impossible to ever address them all. If it were possible to address all rule violations, then you could fairly judge. But since it is not possible, you can only speculate as to how the captain of this vessel runs his ship. Personally? I think if he had the ability to catch all rulebreaking and to rectify it, he would do so. But because he doesn't, it makes sense to go after the non-contributing rulebreakers before going after the contributing ones.redrooster: ehh, I disagree. I can think of one very good example. PM me if you want the details. For now I'll say this: he's somebody who has contributed a heck of a lot, who has very high rep, who is keeping one region of the board alive, but who does fit Desu's description of a rulebreaker: he advertises his private webforum all the time in his posts and signature. If this is against the rules (???), then he's clearly one example of a privileged member.Quote:Originally Posted by guyYou can load your links into a container, such as a .DLC (for compatability with clients like jDownloader). It's not entirely foolproof and other people can still copy off of your work, but as more people begin to use filehost managers like jDownloader, they will begin to prefer using .DLC over copying individual links one-by-one.If you are serious about your uploading and members recognize the quality of your work, you may also consider posting your shares all in one thread. That way people will gradually know to check only your thread for major releases and to skip other reposts (except if they need a different mirror, etc). Plus the mods here may be more forthcoming in letting you control your thread, and you may even get it stickied if its a particularly good resource.thanks for replying; it seems like i gathered some of the major posters in this thread; i feel quite honoured :)to the point: i don't really care if/when/why my links are mirrored/copied, what bothers me is why people are allowed to do it AND to post them in a thread started by me, just below the links i posted, halving both downloads and reputations gain... just because they feel like doing itQuote:Originally Posted by redroosterI already told you: there is none / no privilege.aye, i heard you, and i said i don't care too much about this matter, but what you say and what i see on the forum don't coincide.i could give you many examples, but i'm sure you're already aware of those users; and since there are no privileges, how should i call those? maybe "exceptions"?really, it's not my wish to give you troubles nor headaches, but you warned me for breaking a rule (more than deserved, i must say), then you said there are no priv. but just browsing the first page of the DDL Jav will bring up so many infractions to create work for 1000 mods.if it is like Sakunyuusha said, and you don't want to lose those uploaders, that's fine, but you should admit it; if that's not the case, i'd like to find some good explanation(my problem with hijack stands still)Well, I do understand your point about point stealing but I don't know if banning those who do this is the best option.First there's the fact that most uploaders choose either RS or MU as their main and only host so hardly ever people bother requesting because even when they do, they already think that there are low chances of the request being granted.Second because I would see this as a way to say that not all sharing is valid. Sure you can say that what the person is doing is not sharing but considering the first fact I would still say that it is because he/she is using his/her bandwidth to download and upload, the same way you did. The main difference is that you, as the original uploader, had to find the video elsewhere first. Sometime this can be a hard job, sometimes this can be a piece of cake.If you're only concerned about earning points than I suggest you to upload on MU AND on RS and share both links. If what pisses you off is link stealing than use Mediafire. MF has no download limit for free users so people hardly ever ask for a mirror on this case. If you can't stand the idea of sharing for nothing in exchange (because MF does not have a point program AFAIK) than stick with uploading on MU, RS and other hosts that pay you for sharing (easy-share? upload? hotfile? depositfiles? Lots of options for you to make people wait 500 seconds for each download while you earn something).When I share on the DDL section I normally use both MU and DF, make the links interchangeable and never had problems with people mirroring those links. And still my files dies because people don't download frequently enough. Why? Because the JAV DDL section moves too fast to people see my threads and if people were to create a new thread for every single mirroring than it would be even worse though I don't know if there are so many people doing this because besides never having being mirrored I almost never check other's threads on that section so I wouldn't know.Suggestion I can give you beside sharing both RS and MU links would be inform in big, BIG AND BRIGHT LETTERS at the top of each of your threads that you'll provide mirrors upon request.